In case this wasn't known by any TW members - I would just like this opportunity to bring to your attention something that I believe is nothing short of a national scandal.

But we might be able to do something about it. If we want to?!

 

Did you know that in Scotland, should you want to wade or paddle or swim across a watercourse, any such watercourse (with a very few sensible exceptions) - you can. NOW. As long as you do so responsibly.

 

In England and Wales however, the law is completely different and "wonderfully prohibitive".

Here, if you wish to paddle down a river, or cool your feet in it after a hot walk, you will need permission from the riparian owner - the person who owns the adjoining land (bordering) to the watercourse. This riparian owner also owns the river bed on his/her side of the river. NB. He/she does NOT own the water itself.

There are navigable inland waterways in England and Wales, but they make up only about 3% of all our inland waterways. You'll need a licence for that 3%.

 

To summarise:

 

Scotland - go anywhere, responsibly. No licence needed. No permission necessary.

 

England and Wales  - go anywhere as long as its within the 3% of waterways that you have rights to. Get your licence to explore that 3% by the way!

 

If I want to go out early in the morning in England, silently launch a rubber dinghy into a sleepy backwater, cover mesel in camo netting and responsibly take a shot or two of a grebe or  duck on the watercourse, it'd better be in those 3% of waterways or I'm literally breaking the law, no matter if I've licenced my dinghy via British Waterways, The Environment Agency or the both (British canoe Union).

 

If I wanted to do the same in Scotland, I could do so with no fear whatsoever of breaking any national law.

 

I would strongly suspect that this discrepancy in the laws has been brought about by English anglers pressurising policy makers.

Please - do not misunderstand me - I have no beef with the majority of anglers - responsible, friendly people who enjoy the countryside and are VERY knowledgeable about their patch!

There are always some morons in any walk of life, who leave rubbish and line, beercans and food wrappers about - but to tar all anglers with that brush would be a mistake.

 

That said, anglers have been around for hundreds of years (unlike recreational boaters and canoeists for example) and their laws, byelaws and patches are set in stone these days - just the way many like it!

I know for a fact many angling groups are up in arms about any pressure on English Government or Welsh Assembly to "re-open" our inland waterways to all - not JUST anglers. Anglers say that canoeists and walkers disturb their fish.

Utter codswallop of course.

 

If you (like me) believe that the hidden, beautiful English and Welsh inland waterways should be opened up to all who want to paddle lazily through them, or wade through them, or swim through them, or canoe through them, or photograph wildlife on them - all responsibly of course, as is the case in Scotland, then, please, I urge you to join The BCU's (British Canoe Union's) RIVER ACCESS CAMPAIGN.

 

Anglers, paddlers, wildlife photographers, people with hot feet! - we can all utilise our wonderful network of watercourses. They should be for the use of all responsible people - just like they are in Scotland.

You know - England can be so incredibly snobby sometimes.

 

Please do your own research and join the campaign if you feel strongly enough, below.

 

RIVER ACCESS CAMPAIGN.

 

Many thanks.

 

TBR

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Hi Black rabbit - Thanks for this couldn't agree more
Thanks Mark.
I should point out here that the BCU are very clear when they state this is NOT "Anglers versus canoeists".
I'm sure they are right -and I'm sure that the BCU view is very diplomatic...
Doug
Hi Black Rabbit
What laws are you breaking? If you go alongside or wade in a river.Iv"e been a lawbreaker for years,if thats the case.Just do it and be damned.The reason Scotland has better laws than us is because the Normans never really
conquered Scotland did they.
I think the point should be that rivers should be here for us all and as such we all have a responsibility to share and look after this precious resource and all animals and creatures that rely on it. Hold on I make that pretty much everything... Sorry for the rant.
Derek - basically you are trespassing if the land adjoining the watercourse has a riparian owner. (In a very simplified nutshell).
As for your thoughts that Scotland having better laws than "us" because "the Normans never really conquered Scotland did they" - very funny!!!
I'm pretty sure the law in England and Wales will change in time - Benyon has stated that the first priority is the Spending review (surprise surprise), but then he'll look into it. I hope so!
Trespassing is not breaking the law . You can be sued if you cause any damage. It's purely a civil matter.
You are quite right Derek - trespass is a civil matter, not a criminal offence.
I and millions of others would just much rather see a similar act of law brought into being as in Scotland, so we weren't trespassing when on 97% of our inland watercourses.
Thats all.
Hi black rabbit
You are preaching to the converted.I was a canoeist and angler for many years.
( indeed i still am)In this part of the country access to the river Teme is a bone of
contention as is parts of the Wye.Don't expect miracles.Money talks
Hello derek.
My real name is Doug - and whilst my family are Scots (who as you suggested, were never conquered by the Normans), I have only canoed a little but never coarse-fished (I think it would bore me to tears) - only game fished for trout and salmon in Scotland.
I don't intend to preach to anyone (converted or not), but am genuinely shocked by the difference between the English Rights of Way Act and Scottish Land Reform Acts (and related acts of law). I fully support the BCU's River Access Campaign and hope (you've gottae have hope!) that England falls into line with most other countries.
I fear you may be correct with your "money talks" point - I just hope not!
Doug

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